Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 21:14, 6 January 2017 (UTC) Mike is correct about the limitations. author name) against the legal character list for that wiki. Does an instance of a language wikipedia know what its alphabetic characters are? If so, perhaps VE could draw from that set of characters for each language, filtering information from the citation (e.g. Was the Smith 2017 source "ref name=:17" or "refname=:18"? Could the names be chosen instead from the author's or website's name or the title of the book/journal? SarahSV (talk) 21:09, 6 January 2017 (UTC) A probably relevant point in one of the Phab tickets is that since VE is used across multiple Wikipedias the leading character needs to be something that's legal (numbers are not) and on the keyboard of almost all MediaWiki editors (Latin alphabet characters are not). I first encountered these numbered refs in an article being edited by students, and couldn't figure out why they would choose those ref names. DS ( talk) 00:05, 4 January 2017 (UTC) I'd like to second DS's point. Something that generates meaningful names might be unfeasible, but would it at least be possible to include a note warning users that such reference names are non-optimal? Lots of people ignore warnings, but some people heed them. I'd go so far as to call it a sin against metadata, in fact if you want, I can go on at great length about the problems it causes. As discussed last year, VE's method of automatically generating refnames :0 :1 :2 :3 :4 :5 :6 is problematic.
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